http://pnotepad.org/forums/tags/utf-8 Programmer's Notepad Forums en-US Fri, 30 Jul 2010 01:11:05 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.1 q http://pnotepad.org/forums/search.php http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/2776#post-5068 Sun, 09 May 2010 16:02:43 +0000 rc-flitzer 5068@http://pnotepad.org/forums/ <p>Sorry for the late answer. I created a bug report (Issue 906) and hope it helps. If you need I can provide you with an example of my test file, but it really goes with every non-ASCII char. You should be able to type one yourself or use charmap.exe. </p> http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/2776#post-4849 Tue, 04 May 2010 12:59:25 +0000 simon 4849@http://pnotepad.org/forums/ <p>Hi, please let me know which version of PN you're using for these problems. I'd like to make sure they're fixed. There are lots of improvements for unicode support in 2.1.x but there may still be bugs. </p> http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/2776#post-4842 Sat, 01 May 2010 10:23:33 +0000 rc-flitzer 4842@http://pnotepad.org/forums/ <p>This is working but only in ANSI-mode. Not in UTF-8 mode. Seems there are STILL a lot of problems using UTF-8. :-(<br /> I recently wanted to replaced the - (hyphen) with a – (en-dash). Didn’t work with replace all. But also somehow did not work using manual replacement. I had to use the search function and for each occurrence press Strg-V to replace it. </p> http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/2776#post-4837 Wed, 28 Apr 2010 18:32:41 +0000 omli 4837@http://pnotepad.org/forums/ <p>Replace All button isn't working for "’" (this inside double quotes) . I'm trying to replace "’" with "'", but nothing happens. I have to click Replace button many times. </p> http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/2025#post-4099 Wed, 14 Apr 2010 10:58:33 +0000 rc-flitzer 4099@http://pnotepad.org/forums/ <p>I created a file which has all german umlauts (äöü and ß) in a line. Then there are all 122 non-ASCII characters from Windows-1252 in another line. This has been saved both with encodings Windows-1252 and UTF-8 (with BOM). Is this helpful? Most European Windows versions use 1252. For Kyrillic and other encodings (Chinese, Thai, Turkish) it's a bit more complicated to create these files, but I could also do this if neccassary.</p> <p><a href="http://rainer-grabbe.de/developer/pnotepad/windows-1252.txt" rel="nofollow">http://rainer-grabbe.de/developer/pnotepad/windows-1252.txt</a><br /> <a href="http://rainer-grabbe.de/developer/pnotepad/utf-8.txt" rel="nofollow">http://rainer-grabbe.de/developer/pnotepad/utf-8.txt</a><br /> Maybe your browser does not display any text in one of these files because of encoding. Simply save them. </p> http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/2025#post-4098 Wed, 14 Apr 2010 08:15:45 +0000 simon 4098@http://pnotepad.org/forums/ <p>Hi, thanks for the feedback. I really would like to get this stuff fixed, and sorry I haven't got around to it yet. I'll try and prioritise these bugs, but maybe you could help:</p> <p>What would make these requests easier to work on would be a set of sample files that I can use to verify results, so for each conversion that I might do:</p> <p>1. Open source file [x]<br /> 2. Convert to encoding blah<br /> 3. Save as new file, and compare to file [y]</p> <p>If I had a set of x and y that were known to be good, then testing this is much easier. If you were willing to help on this (or anyone else for that matter, code or samples) it might speed things along.</p> <p>Thanks. </p> http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/2025#post-4069 Tue, 13 Apr 2010 09:45:38 +0000 rc-flitzer 4069@http://pnotepad.org/forums/ <p>Hello!<br /> At first I'd like to thank you, Simon, for the newest version 2.1. It has been a while since I looked here for new versions and this one impresses me. Native support for extensions without the need to install Python (and a nice text sorting extension) and native UTF-8 support, finally. You see, UTF-8 is the future, but already for years, so PNotepad was already late. ;-)</p> <p>If you only edit UTF-8 files everything is nice. But I also have many many old ANSI (1252) files, and it would be great to use PNotepad as all-purpose editor for both encodings. Here is why is that not yet possible:</p> <p>1. I want to create new files automatically in UTF-8. But when I set „Code Page“ to Unicode (UTF-8), all opened ANSI files (with automatc encoding recognition) are displayed wrong. The editor recognizes ANSI encoding and says so in status line, but instead of an „ü“ I only get a square with „FC“ written in it. So it seems a bug: the text window wants to display the text in UTF-8, but it is ANSI and it should be displayed so.<br /> That's really annoying. Either I can't open my old ANSI files properly or I manually have to change encoding from ANSI to UTF-8 on every single new-created document.</p> <p>2. There is still no easy conversion between encodings, which I proposed in July 2008: <a href="http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/443#post-1558" rel="nofollow">http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/443#post-1558</a><br /> And yes, I rechecked the behaviour. It's still the same. It would be so easy to implement an option to set/change the encoding in the save dialog window.</p> <p>I already created two bug reports (875 and 876) for these issues. Hopefully I'm waiting for them to be finished (at least 875). :-) </p> http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/442#post-1708 Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:51:10 +0000 rc-flitzer 1708@http://pnotepad.org/forums/ <p>Good news!<br /> I switched Python from 2.5.2 to 2.6, now everything works fine, especially PNotepad und PyPN. :) Since no other application is bothered by this I'll leave it so.</p> <p>Thanks for the help. :-) </p> http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/442#post-1706 Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:43:22 +0000 simon 1706@http://pnotepad.org/forums/ <p>I have seen at least one case of TortoiseHg causing PyPN to fail. I think they use a non-standard build of python and because it's always loaded (the shell extension gets loaded into the PN process) we end up seeing their version of the dll. I haven't found a way to resolve this yet.</p> <p>Also: Yes, I'm looking into mail notification. </p> http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/442#post-1705 Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:23:44 +0000 rc-flitzer 1705@http://pnotepad.org/forums/ <p>... sorry for the late answer. It seems that this forum needs an e-mail notification for I can't check all my used forums every day for new answers. :(</p> <p>To your checking questions:<br /> 1. I have installed Python in "D:\Sprachen\Python25", so it's not a standard path, but all are ascii chars.<br /> 2. I will test Python 2.6 ...<br /> 3. Hm there's at one in c:\windows\system32, which is the first to be found in PATH. There's another one used by TortoiseHg (version control system), the folder is also in PATH but after the system folder. I'll check this. [...] no, removing the folder from PATH didn't help. </p> http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/442#post-1677 Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:28:01 +0000 simon 1677@http://pnotepad.org/forums/ <p>Also, are there any extra copies of Python25.dll on your system, or only the main installed one? </p> http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/442#post-1676 Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:05:21 +0000 simon 1676@http://pnotepad.org/forums/ <p>Hi, sorry to hear it's still not working :(</p> <p>I just had a look at the dump file and the failure is happening just after we initialize python (the very first time I try to do something with it).</p> <p>Could you please let me know the following:</p> <p>1. Path that you have installed python in?</p> <p>It may be that if you have installed python in somewhere other than the default location (e.g. a path with spaces, or unicode characters) that this might be causing problems.</p> <p>2. Does Python 2.6 with the 2.6 version of PyPN work (if you can try)?</p> <p>I'll have a look and see if there's anything else I can find out about this type of problem, I've not seen it before. </p> http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/442#post-1675 Sat, 25 Oct 2008 12:39:25 +0000 rc-flitzer 1675@http://pnotepad.org/forums/ <p>Hello again!</p> <p>I removed all user settings from PNotepad and reinstalled it (runs fine). Then I registered PyPN. Without any extra changes to the configuration I get the same error message again: "Programmer's Notepad 2 has experienced an unexpected problem and is going to close, we apologise for this inconvenience."</p> <p>The dump file is available at the same address posted above. I also uploaded my settings folder here:<br /> <a href="http://home.arcor.de/sagem-x-5/pn/settings.7z" rel="nofollow">http://home.arcor.de/sagem-x-5/pn/settings.7z</a></p> <p>Please help me, I still can't use PyPN. </p> http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/442#post-1674 Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:19:17 +0000 rc-flitzer 1674@http://pnotepad.org/forums/ <p>Hello!</p> <p>I just installed the latest development version 2.0.9-853-devel, trying to use PyPn 0.9.853 for Python 2.5. I have installed Python 2.5.2 on my system. The same error as described above still occurs. PNotepad won't start when PyPN extension is registered in config.xml.</p> <p>I have uploaded the dump file on my personal webspace here:<br /> <a href="http://home.arcor.de/sagem-x-5/pn/PN2_2.0.9.853.dmp" rel="nofollow">http://home.arcor.de/sagem-x-5/pn/PN2_2.0.9.853.dmp</a></p> <p>Will it help posting my configuration of PNotepad? Maybe there is something wrong. I will try installing again in a fresh profile, could help... I'm a bit disappointed because I can't use PyPN for months. :( </p> http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/442#post-1604 Sun, 10 Aug 2008 12:44:29 +0000 rc-flitzer 1604@http://pnotepad.org/forums/ <p>Hello!<br /> Any success yet? I mean it's not immediate for me having this functionality. At the moment PNotepad does its job fine. :) But as there is a mighty plugin system I'm curious and want to try it. </p> http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/442#post-1587 Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:15:48 +0000 simon 1587@http://pnotepad.org/forums/ <p>Sorry about this, and thanks for trying again. I'll take a look at the dump file this evening and try and get to the bottom of this. </p> http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/442#post-1586 Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:57:12 +0000 rc-flitzer 1586@http://pnotepad.org/forums/ <p>Sorry for the late answer. :(<br /> I just checked again using PNotepad 2.0.9.806 and the latest PyPN 0.9 for Python 2.5. It crashed and created a dump file, which I uploaded here: <a href="http://rapidshare.com/files/133074511/PN2_2.0.9.806.dmp" rel="nofollow">http://rapidshare.com/files/133074511/PN2_2.0.9.806.dmp</a> (I hope, Rapidshare is ok for you?)</p> <p>The config.xml contains the following text after executing "pn --findexts":<br /> <code>&lt;config&gt;&lt;extension path=&quot;taggers/ctagsnavigator.dll&quot;&gt;&lt;/extension&gt;&lt;extension path=&quot;Taggers\ctagsnavigator.dll&quot;&gt;&lt;/extension&gt;&lt;extension path=&quot;pypn.dll&quot;&gt;&lt;/extension&gt;&lt;/config&gt;</code> </p> http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/442#post-1567 Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:53:24 +0000 simon 1567@http://pnotepad.org/forums/ <p>The PyPN 0.9 release should work fine with the 0.9 builds of PN. The current stable release of PN (0.8) should work fine with the stable 0.8 release of PyPN. You shouldn't mix these. When PN crashes does it save a dump? </p> http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/443#post-1566 Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:11:26 +0000 rc-flitzer 1566@http://pnotepad.org/forums/ <p>Is there a chance to get an additional "Encoding" setting in the "Save as..." dialog window? That would solve many conversion problems with ANSI and UTF-x. :) </p> http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/442#post-1565 Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:10:33 +0000 rc-flitzer 1565@http://pnotepad.org/forums/ <p>Any hints which combinations of PN and PyPN properly work together? At least Simon should know ... </p> http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/443#post-1558 Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:06:09 +0000 rc-flitzer 1558@http://pnotepad.org/forums/ <p>Hello!<br /> It is great that PNotepad can handle both UTF-8 (with/without BOM) and ANSI encoding files. But it's not that easy to convert from one encoding to another. Maybe I'm doing wrong, but here are my procedures.</p> <p>ANSI to UTF-8:<br /> Open textfile, recognized correctly as ANSI. Then I copy/cut the entire file (so it is empty) and set File-&gt;Encoding-&gt;UTF-8. I paste back the file content, save it and it is converted to UTF-8. :) Not that easy but ok.</p> <p>UTF-8 to ANSI:<br /> This is way more complicated. I open the file, recognized as UTF-8. Copy/cut the entire file, set File-&gt;Encoding-&gt;8-Bit. Paste back the file content, save it, BUT: it is still UTF-8 encoded. :(<br /> The way it works: copy/cut entire file content, set File-&gt;Encoding-&gt;8-Bit. Then save and CLOSE. Reopen the file, paste back the file content, again save. Then it is stored as an ANSI encoded file.</p> <p>Why has the conversion be so complicated? Maybe the option File-&gt;Encoding does not convert but interpret the file new, is this correct? But how should I easily convert a textfile to another encoding? I have a proposal: maybe you can add an "Encoding" setting in the "Save as..." window. The user won't have to copy/cut/repaste, it's just that the file content is stored with another encoding. I know that it works because with the complex way (described above) it is at least possible, but not comfortable...</p> <p>Thanks for reading,<br /> rc </p> http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/442#post-1557 Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:44:04 +0000 rc-flitzer 1557@http://pnotepad.org/forums/ <p>Hello!<br /> Because it is my first posting here, I'd like to thank the programmer for developing such a useful editor. It's one of the best I've ever seen because it has all the small little features which I miss in all other editors. It's not overcrowded, yet has many options. Thanks a lot and keep working on it! :)</p> <p>So now to my question. I'm using PN 2.0.9.806-devel because this version has correct handling of Home/End keys and of UTF-8 encoded files. While looking around in this forum I discovered PyPn as a wonderful method of extending editor functions with Scripts (I'd like to try auto indent scripts). But unfortunately it won't work in my editor.<br /> The use of PyPn 0.9.794 for Python 2.5 crashes PN so it won't start up. Using 0.8.717 doesn't crash but I don't have any scripts visible in script list (Alt-F10). Maybe it's working though and I just have no scripts (but there are some in scripts folder)...?</p> <p>Using stable version of PN (2.0.7.?) won't work with PyPN 0.8 (crashing at startup) but doesn't show any scripts when using PyPN 0.9. It's the same problem, only the other way round compared with PN 2.0.9.806...</p> <p>Which combination of PN and PyPN should I use? I'm using WinXP SP2 and Python 2.5.2. Other Python tools run properly.</p> <p>Thanks for help,<br /> rc </p> http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/187#post-665 Fri, 23 Mar 2007 13:43:03 +0000 troels 665@http://pnotepad.org/forums/ <p>Some content types default to utf-8, while others default to an 8-bit encoding. It would be practical if it was possible to specify on a per filetype-basis, which encoding to default to.<br /> A distinction between different types of 8-bit charsets would be a nice addition. In particular, to be able to choose between iso-8859-1 and windows-1252 would be very useful. </p> http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/176#post-633 Wed, 07 Mar 2007 19:17:44 +0000 Bjoern 633@http://pnotepad.org/forums/ <p>In the lastest builds, it is possiblie to use a BOM-less UTF-8. </p> http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/176#post-632 Wed, 07 Mar 2007 16:59:54 +0000 michaelkelly 632@http://pnotepad.org/forums/ <p>I have found out that it is due the a Byte-Order Mark (BOM) being placed in the beginning of the files... was wondering if there is anyway to turn this off? </p> http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/176#post-631 Wed, 07 Mar 2007 16:37:29 +0000 michaelkelly 631@http://pnotepad.org/forums/ <p>I have experienced interesting behavior while using programmers notepad (v.2.0.6.1) and smarty (v.2.6.17).</p> <p>When I use UTF-8 encoding on a *.tpl file, and smarty parses the *.tpl file three hex values are places at the beginning of every *.tpl file that is included in the php. They are: BE BB BF I believe. This is only a problem because ie7 interprets these in the same way that it interprets a comment before the doctype statement. When you put a comment before the doctype statement in ie you are put into quirks mode. And this in turn breaks my css. I have solved the problem by coding the files in 8-bit format instead of UTF-8.</p> <p>I have not tried using a different editor and encoding in UTF-8 and running it through smarty.</p> <p>I have however, tried to make *.php files with programmers notepad and these hex characters were not added to the beginning of the files.</p> <p>I may have some setting turned wrong in smarty and/or programmers notepad but i don't know i just thought that someone else might like to know if it were a bug in either program</p> <p>-michael </p> http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/151#post-563 Sat, 30 Dec 2006 22:36:22 +0000 Bjoern 563@http://pnotepad.org/forums/ <p>I doubt PHP understands (or even cares) about its source file encodings - which can be witnessed when using a BOM on such a file... - which is another good reason to use UTF-8 for PHP files.</p> <p>I doubt there are that many programs that get it right without the uses help; at least for legacy files, it might be safe to assume UTF-8 for BOM less ones for newer/current files. </p> http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/151#post-561 Fri, 29 Dec 2006 23:14:27 +0000 simon 561@http://pnotepad.org/forums/ <p>The UTF-8 No Mark option is only available in development builds, but that is it's purpose. I seem to get this question a lot, I had no idea so many programs would use UTF-8 without signalling it or understanding it - crazy! </p> http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/151#post-560 Fri, 29 Dec 2006 22:52:40 +0000 Bjoern 560@http://pnotepad.org/forums/ <blockquote><p>Is there a way to keep UTF-8 from inserting a Byte-Order Mark? Something like setting the "UTF-8 cookie" property in SciTE..</p></blockquote> <p>Sure: File-&gt;Encoding-&gt;UTF-8 No Mark :)</p> <blockquote><p>and if I understand correctly, makes sense in UTF-16 only anyway.</p></blockquote> <p>And how would any text consuming application know that it is UTF-8 whithout a BOM? </p> http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/151#post-555 Wed, 20 Dec 2006 11:26:05 +0000 zendak 555@http://pnotepad.org/forums/ <p>Hi,</p> <p>Is there a way to keep UTF-8 from inserting a Byte-Order Mark? Something like setting the "UTF-8 cookie" property in SciTE.. The BOM causes some problems with certain interpreters like PHP and older browsers, and if I understand correctly, makes sense in UTF-16 only anyway.</p> <p>Apart from that I love the program. Using v2.0.6.1</p> <p>Thanks in advance </p>