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pnotepad.org forums Topic: Slow Startup http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/680 Programmer's Notepad Forums en-US Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:45:05 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.1 <![CDATA[Search]]> q http://pnotepad.org/forums/search.php gnom1gnom on "Slow Startup" http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/680#post-2539 Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:16:05 +0000 gnom1gnom 2539@http://pnotepad.org/forums/ Hi, do you have any news about this issue? Is there anything I can do to help you out? gnom1gnom on "Slow Startup" http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/680#post-2495 Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:44:48 +0000 gnom1gnom 2495@http://pnotepad.org/forums/ AcXtrnal.dll was there because I tried running PN is XP compatible mode before and I forgot to switch this option off. Here is the stack trace without this option: ntoskrnl.exe!SeAccessCheckWithHint+0xb4a ntoskrnl.exe!KeAcquireSpinLockAtDpcLevel+0x682 ntoskrnl.exe!KeWaitForSingleObject+0x19f ntoskrnl.exe!PsIsSystemProcess+0x68 ntoskrnl.exe!KeStackAttachProcess+0x11b9 ntoskrnl.exe!ObReferenceObjectByPointerWithTag+0x22b KERNELBASE.dll!OpenRegKey+0x236c KERNELBASE.dll!OpenRegKey+0x2536 KERNELBASE.dll!CompareStringEx+0xe KERNELBASE.dll!CompareStringW+0x38 ntdll.dll!RtlInitializeCriticalSectionEx+0xdf ntdll.dll!RtlInitializeCriticalSection+0x12 KERNELBASE.dll!FindCloseChangeNotification+0x69 KERNELBASE.dll!FindFirstFileExW+0x515 KERNELBASE.dll!CompareStringEx+0x52 ntoskrnl.exe!SeAccessCheckWithHint+0xb4a ntoskrnl.exe!KeAcquireSpinLockAtDpcLevel+0x682 ntoskrnl.exe!KeWaitForSingleObject+0x19f ntoskrnl.exe!PsIsSystemProcess+0x68 ntoskrnl.exe!KeStackAttachProcess+0x11b9 ntoskrnl.exe!ObReferenceObjectByPointerWithTag+0x22b KERNELBASE.dll!OpenRegKey+0x236c KERNELBASE.dll!OpenRegKey+0x2536 KERNELBASE.dll!CompareStringEx+0xe KERNELBASE.dll!CompareStringW+0x38 ntdll.dll!RtlInitializeCriticalSectionEx+0xdf ntdll.dll!RtlInitializeCriticalSection+0x12 KERNELBASE.dll!FindCloseChangeNotification+0x69 KERNELBASE.dll!FindFirstFileExW+0x515 KERNELBASE.dll!CompareStringEx+0x52 ntoskrnl.exe!SeAccessCheckWithHint+0xb4a ntoskrnl.exe!KeAcquireSpinLockAtDpcLevel+0x682 ntoskrnl.exe!KeWaitForSingleObject+0x19f ntoskrnl.exe!PsIsSystemProcess+0x68 ntoskrnl.exe!KeStackAttachProcess+0x11b9 ntoskrnl.exe!KeAcquireSpinLockAtDpcLevel+0x88d ntoskrnl.exe!KeWaitForSingleObject+0x19f win32k.sys!memset+0x7a27 win32k.sys!memset+0x7ac9 win32k.sys!memset+0x60f4 win32k.sys!memset+0x61f9 win32k.sys!memset+0x7bf5 ntoskrnl.exe!KeSynchronizeExecution+0x3a43 wow64win.dll+0x3fc2a wow64win.dll+0x1ac48 wow64.dll!Wow64SystemServiceEx+0xd7 wow64cpu.dll!TurboDispatchJumpAddressEnd+0x24 wow64.dll!Wow64SystemServiceEx+0x1ce wow64.dll!Wow64LdrpInitialize+0x429 ntdll.dll!RtlResetRtlTranslations+0x1b08 ntdll.dll!RtlResetRtlTranslations+0xc63 ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0xe USER32.dll!DispatchMessageW+0x5c pn.exe+0x64627 I'm not sure if the last one appeared just before PN opened or just after... Yes I open PN by double-clicking. simon on "Slow Startup" http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/680#post-2488 Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:57:11 +0000 simon 2488@http://pnotepad.org/forums/ What's very strange here is that these stacks don't look like they include any code running actually in PN.exe or any of the wow64.dll or similar references I'd expect to see on a 64-bit OS. PN doesn't call FindCloseChangeNotification anywhere internally, so it doesn't look like it's directly PN that's causing it. I also don't see any references to AcXtrnal.dll when using PN on my system. That being said I'll see if I can produce something with some debug output to help track the cause down. Finally, I presume that you're starting PN just by double-clicking on a shortcut or similar? gnom1gnom on "Slow Startup" http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/680#post-2486 Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:42:35 +0000 gnom1gnom 2486@http://pnotepad.org/forums/ I copied the pdb files. The stack changes during startup - I tried to copy it as fast as I can (I had managed to do it couple of times before PN showed up): ntoskrnl.exe!SeAccessCheckWithHint+0xb4a ntoskrnl.exe!KeAcquireSpinLockAtDpcLevel+0x682 ntoskrnl.exe!KeWaitForSingleObject+0x19f ntoskrnl.exe!PsIsSystemProcess+0x68 ntoskrnl.exe!KeStackAttachProcess+0x11b9 ntoskrnl.exe!ObReferenceObjectByPointerWithTag+0x22b AcXtrnal.DLL+0x9e7a KERNELBASE.dll!CreateFileW+0x3e8 ntdll.dll!RtlInitUnicodeString+0x164 ntdll.dll!RtlAllocateHeap+0xac ntdll.dll!RtlValidateHeap+0xbb AcXtrnal.DLL+0xa25d ntdll.dll!RtlFreeHeap+0x7e AcXtrnal.DLL+0xa25d ntdll.dll!RtlGetGroupSecurityDescriptor+0xf3 ntdll.dll!RtlValidateHeap+0xa0 ntdll.dll!RtlImageNtHeader+0x73a ntdll.dll!RtlUniform+0x28 AcXtrnal.DLL+0x9480 KERNELBASE.dll!FindCloseChangeNotification+0x69 ntoskrnl.exe!SeAccessCheckWithHint+0xb4a ntoskrnl.exe!KeAcquireSpinLockAtDpcLevel+0x682 ntoskrnl.exe!KeWaitForSingleObject+0x19f ntoskrnl.exe!PsIsSystemProcess+0x68 ntoskrnl.exe!KeStackAttachProcess+0x11b9 ntoskrnl.exe!ObReferenceObjectByPointerWithTag+0x22b AcXtrnal.DLL+0x9e7a KERNELBASE.dll!CreateFileW+0x3e8 ntdll.dll!RtlInitUnicodeString+0x164 ntdll.dll!RtlAllocateHeap+0xac ntdll.dll!RtlValidateHeap+0xbb AcXtrnal.DLL+0xa25d ntdll.dll!RtlFreeHeap+0x7e AcXtrnal.DLL+0xa25d ntdll.dll!RtlGetGroupSecurityDescriptor+0xf3 ntdll.dll!RtlValidateHeap+0xa0 ntdll.dll!RtlImageNtHeader+0x73a ntdll.dll!RtlUniform+0x28 AcXtrnal.DLL+0x9480 KERNELBASE.dll!FindCloseChangeNotification+0x69 ntoskrnl.exe!SeAccessCheckWithHint+0xb4a ntoskrnl.exe!KeAcquireSpinLockAtDpcLevel+0x682 ntoskrnl.exe!KeWaitForSingleObject+0x19f ntoskrnl.exe!PsIsSystemProcess+0x68 ntoskrnl.exe!KeStackAttachProcess+0x11b9 ntoskrnl.exe!ObReferenceObjectByPointerWithTag+0x22b AcXtrnal.DLL+0x9e7a KERNELBASE.dll!CreateFileW+0x3e8 ntdll.dll!RtlInitUnicodeString+0x164 ntdll.dll!RtlAllocateHeap+0xac ntdll.dll!RtlValidateHeap+0xbb AcXtrnal.DLL+0xa25d ntdll.dll!RtlFreeHeap+0x7e AcXtrnal.DLL+0xa25d ntdll.dll!RtlGetGroupSecurityDescriptor+0xf3 ntdll.dll!RtlValidateHeap+0xa0 ntdll.dll!RtlImageNtHeader+0x73a ntdll.dll!RtlUniform+0x28 AcXtrnal.DLL+0x9480 KERNELBASE.dll!FindCloseChangeNotification+0x69 ntoskrnl.exe!SeAccessCheckWithHint+0xb4a ntoskrnl.exe!KeAcquireSpinLockAtDpcLevel+0x682 ntoskrnl.exe!KeWaitForSingleObject+0x19f ntoskrnl.exe!PsIsSystemProcess+0x68 ntoskrnl.exe!KeStackAttachProcess+0x11b9 ntoskrnl.exe!ObReferenceObjectByPointerWithTag+0x22b kernel32.dll!RegOpenKeyExW+0x5db kernel32.dll!RegOpenKeyExW+0x497 KERNELBASE.dll!CompareStringEx+0x52 KERNELBASE.dll!CompareStringW+0x38 ntdll.dll!RtlInitializeCriticalSectionEx+0xdf ntdll.dll!RtlUniform+0x28 AcXtrnal.DLL+0x9480 KERNELBASE.dll!FindCloseChangeNotification+0x69 Notice that this line is at the bottom of each stack state: KERNELBASE.dll!FindCloseChangeNotification+0x69. Hope this helps! simon on "Slow Startup" http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/680#post-2484 Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:20:15 +0000 simon 2484@http://pnotepad.org/forums/ Hmm, ok so we're not showing any PN code there. I'm not sure if that's because we're not in PN yet or because there are no symbols for pn.exe. Would you mind trying with the PDB files from here: <a href="http://pnotepad.googlecode.com/files/pdb20101010.zip" rel="nofollow">http://pnotepad.googlecode.com/files/pdb20101010.zip</a> Just drop the files into the PN directory so that pn.pdb is in the same place as pn.exe and try Process Explorer again. If this doesn't help then I'll keep working on a custom build to track down the problem. Thanks for your help in diagnosing this! gnom1gnom on "Slow Startup" http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/680#post-2481 Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:07:35 +0000 gnom1gnom 2481@http://pnotepad.org/forums/ This issue started suddenly - I installed Windows 7 Ultimate x64 from scratch and as usual installed PN (2.0.10.1010). Than suddenly it started happening - I don't recall installing any new program or update. I deleted c:\users\your_user_name\appdata\roaming\echo software\pn2 as you suggested, but it doesn't help. Disabling CTags doesn't help too. Here's PN's stack: ntoskrnl.exe!SeAccessCheckWithHint+0xb4a ntoskrnl.exe!KeAcquireSpinLockAtDpcLevel+0x682 ntoskrnl.exe!KeWaitForSingleObject+0x19f ntoskrnl.exe!PsIsSystemProcess+0x68 ntoskrnl.exe!KeStackAttachProcess+0x11b9 ntoskrnl.exe!ObReferenceObjectByPointerWithTag+0x22b kernel32.dll!SortCloseHandle+0x2db8 kernel32.dll!GetDurationFormatEx+0xd8ce kernel32.dll!RegOpenKeyExW+0x497 KERNELBASE.dll!CompareStringEx+0x52 KERNELBASE.dll!CompareStringW+0x38 ntdll.dll!RtlInitializeCriticalSectionEx+0xdf ntdll.dll!RtlUniform+0x28 ntdll.dll!RtlInitializeCriticalSection+0x12 KERNELBASE.dll!FindCloseChangeNotification+0x69 KERNELBASE.dll!FindFirstFileExW+0x515 KERNELBASE.dll!CompareStringEx+0x52 simon on "Slow Startup" http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/680#post-2478 Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:29:39 +0000 simon 2478@http://pnotepad.org/forums/ Is it the same? Does your PN start after 30 seconds or just stay stopped? Finally, if I make a custom build of PN that ouputs some timing information would either of you help by running it and uploading the results? gnom1gnom on "Slow Startup" http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/680#post-2471 Mon, 12 Oct 2009 09:15:19 +0000 gnom1gnom 2471@http://pnotepad.org/forums/ It seems that I have the same problem - <a href="http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/687" rel="nofollow">http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/687</a>. Pich on "Slow Startup" http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/680#post-2454 Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:31:26 +0000 Pich 2454@http://pnotepad.org/forums/ Hi, thank you for your answer. I've unistalled PN2, I've completely deleted the folder: c:\documents and settings\your_user_name\application data\echo software\pn2 I've downloaded the latest stable version of PN2 and I've installed it. No change. Several seconds ( 30 seconds ) in program startup and CPU load at maximum. No other extensions are installed. Maybe there can be some problems in interactions between PN2 and windows API...but it's only an idea... Thank you Pich simon on "Slow Startup" http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/680#post-2450 Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:40:39 +0000 simon 2450@http://pnotepad.org/forums/ Hi, I'd definitely like to work out what this is to avoid it happening in the future. I'm not sure what might be causing it. The first thing to try is removing things from the user settings directory: Vista/7: c:\users\your_user_name\appdata\roaming\echo software\pn2 XP: c:\documents and settings\your_user_name\application data\echo software\pn2 Here are what the files mean: *.acd: Autocomplete history files *.cscheme: Compiled scheme details, delete these and they'll be recreated next run installClipCache.xml: Text clip details, will be recreated from defaults but you'll lose any customisations toolbar.dat: Toolbar configuration I can't think what would be causing the slowdown here, but try this and see if that helps. If not, we'll look at other options. Out of interest do you have any extensions installed, like PyPN? Pich on "Slow Startup" http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/680#post-2442 Mon, 28 Sep 2009 08:06:34 +0000 Pich 2442@http://pnotepad.org/forums/ Hi to all, i've noticed a problem with programmer's notepad. I have version 2.0.10.1010, but I've noticed this in earlier versions too. I'm using it on Windows XP professional. Sometimes happens that the startup of the programmers notepad is sloooow ( one minute or two on a P4 3 GHz - 1GB RAM ) and I don't know how to fix this. Months ago I've completely cleaned all references of the program in the registry and in the new installation all went ok ( few milliseconds and the programmers notepad was up ). After a while something happened and the startup became surprisingly slow... Any idea? Thank you Pich