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Started 5 months ago by Pich
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Pich
Member

Hi to all,

i've noticed a problem with programmer's notepad.
I have version 2.0.10.1010, but I've noticed this in earlier versions too.
I'm using it on Windows XP professional.

Sometimes happens that the startup of the programmers notepad is sloooow ( one minute or two on a P4 3 GHz - 1GB RAM ) and I don't know how to fix this.
Months ago I've completely cleaned all references of the program in the registry and in the new installation all went ok ( few milliseconds and the programmers notepad was up ). After a while something happened and the startup became surprisingly slow...

Any idea?

Thank you

Pich

Posted 5 months ago #
simon
PN Developer

Hi, I'd definitely like to work out what this is to avoid it happening in the future. I'm not sure what might be causing it. The first thing to try is removing things from the user settings directory:

Vista/7: c:\users\your_user_name\appdata\roaming\echo software\pn2
XP: c:\documents and settings\your_user_name\application data\echo software\pn2

Here are what the files mean:

*.acd: Autocomplete history files
*.cscheme: Compiled scheme details, delete these and they'll be recreated next run
installClipCache.xml: Text clip details, will be recreated from defaults but you'll lose any customisations
toolbar.dat: Toolbar configuration

I can't think what would be causing the slowdown here, but try this and see if that helps. If not, we'll look at other options.

Out of interest do you have any extensions installed, like PyPN?

Posted 5 months ago #
Pich
Member

Hi,

thank you for your answer. I've unistalled PN2, I've completely deleted the folder:

c:\documents and settings\your_user_name\application data\echo software\pn2

I've downloaded the latest stable version of PN2 and I've installed it.

No change. Several seconds ( 30 seconds ) in program startup and CPU load at maximum.

No other extensions are installed. Maybe there can be some problems in interactions between PN2 and windows API...but it's only an idea...

Thank you

Pich

Posted 5 months ago #
gnom1gnom
Member

It seems that I have the same problem - http://pnotepad.org/forums/topic/687.

Posted 5 months ago #
simon
PN Developer

Is it the same? Does your PN start after 30 seconds or just stay stopped? Finally, if I make a custom build of PN that ouputs some timing information would either of you help by running it and uploading the results?

Posted 5 months ago #
gnom1gnom
Member

This issue started suddenly - I installed Windows 7 Ultimate x64 from scratch and as usual installed PN (2.0.10.1010). Than suddenly it started happening - I don't recall installing any new program or update.

I deleted c:\users\your_user_name\appdata\roaming\echo software\pn2 as you suggested, but it doesn't help. Disabling CTags doesn't help too.

Here's PN's stack:
ntoskrnl.exe!SeAccessCheckWithHint+0xb4a
ntoskrnl.exe!KeAcquireSpinLockAtDpcLevel+0x682
ntoskrnl.exe!KeWaitForSingleObject+0x19f
ntoskrnl.exe!PsIsSystemProcess+0x68
ntoskrnl.exe!KeStackAttachProcess+0x11b9
ntoskrnl.exe!ObReferenceObjectByPointerWithTag+0x22b
kernel32.dll!SortCloseHandle+0x2db8
kernel32.dll!GetDurationFormatEx+0xd8ce
kernel32.dll!RegOpenKeyExW+0x497
KERNELBASE.dll!CompareStringEx+0x52
KERNELBASE.dll!CompareStringW+0x38
ntdll.dll!RtlInitializeCriticalSectionEx+0xdf
ntdll.dll!RtlUniform+0x28
ntdll.dll!RtlInitializeCriticalSection+0x12
KERNELBASE.dll!FindCloseChangeNotification+0x69
KERNELBASE.dll!FindFirstFileExW+0x515
KERNELBASE.dll!CompareStringEx+0x52

Posted 5 months ago #
simon
PN Developer

Hmm, ok so we're not showing any PN code there. I'm not sure if that's because we're not in PN yet or because there are no symbols for pn.exe. Would you mind trying with the PDB files from here:

http://pnotepad.googlecode.com/files/pdb20101010.zip

Just drop the files into the PN directory so that pn.pdb is in the same place as pn.exe and try Process Explorer again. If this doesn't help then I'll keep working on a custom build to track down the problem.

Thanks for your help in diagnosing this!

Posted 5 months ago #
gnom1gnom
Member

I copied the pdb files.
The stack changes during startup - I tried to copy it as fast as I can (I had managed to do it couple of times before PN showed up):
ntoskrnl.exe!SeAccessCheckWithHint+0xb4a
ntoskrnl.exe!KeAcquireSpinLockAtDpcLevel+0x682
ntoskrnl.exe!KeWaitForSingleObject+0x19f
ntoskrnl.exe!PsIsSystemProcess+0x68
ntoskrnl.exe!KeStackAttachProcess+0x11b9
ntoskrnl.exe!ObReferenceObjectByPointerWithTag+0x22b
AcXtrnal.DLL+0x9e7a
KERNELBASE.dll!CreateFileW+0x3e8
ntdll.dll!RtlInitUnicodeString+0x164
ntdll.dll!RtlAllocateHeap+0xac
ntdll.dll!RtlValidateHeap+0xbb
AcXtrnal.DLL+0xa25d
ntdll.dll!RtlFreeHeap+0x7e
AcXtrnal.DLL+0xa25d
ntdll.dll!RtlGetGroupSecurityDescriptor+0xf3
ntdll.dll!RtlValidateHeap+0xa0
ntdll.dll!RtlImageNtHeader+0x73a
ntdll.dll!RtlUniform+0x28
AcXtrnal.DLL+0x9480
KERNELBASE.dll!FindCloseChangeNotification+0x69

ntoskrnl.exe!SeAccessCheckWithHint+0xb4a
ntoskrnl.exe!KeAcquireSpinLockAtDpcLevel+0x682
ntoskrnl.exe!KeWaitForSingleObject+0x19f
ntoskrnl.exe!PsIsSystemProcess+0x68
ntoskrnl.exe!KeStackAttachProcess+0x11b9
ntoskrnl.exe!ObReferenceObjectByPointerWithTag+0x22b
AcXtrnal.DLL+0x9e7a
KERNELBASE.dll!CreateFileW+0x3e8
ntdll.dll!RtlInitUnicodeString+0x164
ntdll.dll!RtlAllocateHeap+0xac
ntdll.dll!RtlValidateHeap+0xbb
AcXtrnal.DLL+0xa25d
ntdll.dll!RtlFreeHeap+0x7e
AcXtrnal.DLL+0xa25d
ntdll.dll!RtlGetGroupSecurityDescriptor+0xf3
ntdll.dll!RtlValidateHeap+0xa0
ntdll.dll!RtlImageNtHeader+0x73a
ntdll.dll!RtlUniform+0x28
AcXtrnal.DLL+0x9480
KERNELBASE.dll!FindCloseChangeNotification+0x69

ntoskrnl.exe!SeAccessCheckWithHint+0xb4a
ntoskrnl.exe!KeAcquireSpinLockAtDpcLevel+0x682
ntoskrnl.exe!KeWaitForSingleObject+0x19f
ntoskrnl.exe!PsIsSystemProcess+0x68
ntoskrnl.exe!KeStackAttachProcess+0x11b9
ntoskrnl.exe!ObReferenceObjectByPointerWithTag+0x22b
AcXtrnal.DLL+0x9e7a
KERNELBASE.dll!CreateFileW+0x3e8
ntdll.dll!RtlInitUnicodeString+0x164
ntdll.dll!RtlAllocateHeap+0xac
ntdll.dll!RtlValidateHeap+0xbb
AcXtrnal.DLL+0xa25d
ntdll.dll!RtlFreeHeap+0x7e
AcXtrnal.DLL+0xa25d
ntdll.dll!RtlGetGroupSecurityDescriptor+0xf3
ntdll.dll!RtlValidateHeap+0xa0
ntdll.dll!RtlImageNtHeader+0x73a
ntdll.dll!RtlUniform+0x28
AcXtrnal.DLL+0x9480
KERNELBASE.dll!FindCloseChangeNotification+0x69

ntoskrnl.exe!SeAccessCheckWithHint+0xb4a
ntoskrnl.exe!KeAcquireSpinLockAtDpcLevel+0x682
ntoskrnl.exe!KeWaitForSingleObject+0x19f
ntoskrnl.exe!PsIsSystemProcess+0x68
ntoskrnl.exe!KeStackAttachProcess+0x11b9
ntoskrnl.exe!ObReferenceObjectByPointerWithTag+0x22b
kernel32.dll!RegOpenKeyExW+0x5db
kernel32.dll!RegOpenKeyExW+0x497
KERNELBASE.dll!CompareStringEx+0x52
KERNELBASE.dll!CompareStringW+0x38
ntdll.dll!RtlInitializeCriticalSectionEx+0xdf
ntdll.dll!RtlUniform+0x28
AcXtrnal.DLL+0x9480
KERNELBASE.dll!FindCloseChangeNotification+0x69

Notice that this line is at the bottom of each stack state: KERNELBASE.dll!FindCloseChangeNotification+0x69.

Hope this helps!

Posted 5 months ago #
simon
PN Developer

What's very strange here is that these stacks don't look like they include any code running actually in PN.exe or any of the wow64.dll or similar references I'd expect to see on a 64-bit OS. PN doesn't call FindCloseChangeNotification anywhere internally, so it doesn't look like it's directly PN that's causing it. I also don't see any references to AcXtrnal.dll when using PN on my system.

That being said I'll see if I can produce something with some debug output to help track the cause down.

Finally, I presume that you're starting PN just by double-clicking on a shortcut or similar?

Posted 5 months ago #
gnom1gnom
Member

AcXtrnal.dll was there because I tried running PN is XP compatible mode before and I forgot to switch this option off.

Here is the stack trace without this option:
ntoskrnl.exe!SeAccessCheckWithHint+0xb4a
ntoskrnl.exe!KeAcquireSpinLockAtDpcLevel+0x682
ntoskrnl.exe!KeWaitForSingleObject+0x19f
ntoskrnl.exe!PsIsSystemProcess+0x68
ntoskrnl.exe!KeStackAttachProcess+0x11b9
ntoskrnl.exe!ObReferenceObjectByPointerWithTag+0x22b
KERNELBASE.dll!OpenRegKey+0x236c
KERNELBASE.dll!OpenRegKey+0x2536
KERNELBASE.dll!CompareStringEx+0xe
KERNELBASE.dll!CompareStringW+0x38
ntdll.dll!RtlInitializeCriticalSectionEx+0xdf
ntdll.dll!RtlInitializeCriticalSection+0x12
KERNELBASE.dll!FindCloseChangeNotification+0x69
KERNELBASE.dll!FindFirstFileExW+0x515
KERNELBASE.dll!CompareStringEx+0x52

ntoskrnl.exe!SeAccessCheckWithHint+0xb4a
ntoskrnl.exe!KeAcquireSpinLockAtDpcLevel+0x682
ntoskrnl.exe!KeWaitForSingleObject+0x19f
ntoskrnl.exe!PsIsSystemProcess+0x68
ntoskrnl.exe!KeStackAttachProcess+0x11b9
ntoskrnl.exe!ObReferenceObjectByPointerWithTag+0x22b
KERNELBASE.dll!OpenRegKey+0x236c
KERNELBASE.dll!OpenRegKey+0x2536
KERNELBASE.dll!CompareStringEx+0xe
KERNELBASE.dll!CompareStringW+0x38
ntdll.dll!RtlInitializeCriticalSectionEx+0xdf
ntdll.dll!RtlInitializeCriticalSection+0x12
KERNELBASE.dll!FindCloseChangeNotification+0x69
KERNELBASE.dll!FindFirstFileExW+0x515
KERNELBASE.dll!CompareStringEx+0x52

ntoskrnl.exe!SeAccessCheckWithHint+0xb4a
ntoskrnl.exe!KeAcquireSpinLockAtDpcLevel+0x682
ntoskrnl.exe!KeWaitForSingleObject+0x19f
ntoskrnl.exe!PsIsSystemProcess+0x68
ntoskrnl.exe!KeStackAttachProcess+0x11b9
ntoskrnl.exe!KeAcquireSpinLockAtDpcLevel+0x88d
ntoskrnl.exe!KeWaitForSingleObject+0x19f
win32k.sys!memset+0x7a27
win32k.sys!memset+0x7ac9
win32k.sys!memset+0x60f4
win32k.sys!memset+0x61f9
win32k.sys!memset+0x7bf5
ntoskrnl.exe!KeSynchronizeExecution+0x3a43
wow64win.dll+0x3fc2a
wow64win.dll+0x1ac48
wow64.dll!Wow64SystemServiceEx+0xd7
wow64cpu.dll!TurboDispatchJumpAddressEnd+0x24
wow64.dll!Wow64SystemServiceEx+0x1ce
wow64.dll!Wow64LdrpInitialize+0x429
ntdll.dll!RtlResetRtlTranslations+0x1b08
ntdll.dll!RtlResetRtlTranslations+0xc63
ntdll.dll!LdrInitializeThunk+0xe
USER32.dll!DispatchMessageW+0x5c
pn.exe+0x64627

I'm not sure if the last one appeared just before PN opened or just after...
Yes I open PN by double-clicking.

Posted 5 months ago #
gnom1gnom
Member

Hi,
do you have any news about this issue? Is there anything I can do to help you out?

Posted 4 months ago #
PJani
Member

Slow start problem i had for very long time.
I found what is causing these slow starts...
On desktop i had one very large archive(in number of files) .zip "archive of boost".

I used procmon.
For some very weard reason, pn starts to read all files in that archive. I renamed that archive .zip to .zip_ and PN started to work fine.
I hope this helps.

Posted 3 weeks ago #
simon
PN Developer

Ah, excellent diagnosis! I wonder if this was caused by the File Browser, perhaps checking if the ZIP file has files/subfolders so can be expanded. This is something to look at!

Posted 2 weeks ago #
tgwizard
Member

Yes, the same thing happens to me (Windows 7 64 bits). I had a ~150 MB .zip file on my desktop (with lots of small files in it), and it took about 2 min for PN to start. When I moved it to my User folder, it starts immediately.

Posted 4 days ago #

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